TSA/FAA Waiver или e-APIS ?

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TSA/FAA Waiver или e-APIS ?

#1 Сообщение 502 » 18 сен 2010, 19:52

Кто подскажет - для частного воздушного судна принадлежащему частному лицу, не-американской регистрации, для прилета в США нужно получать TSA/FAA Waiver (https://waiver.c3.faa.gov/) или заполнять e-APIS (https://eapis.cbp.dhs.gov/) или и то и другое?
Ку — произносится при ритуальном приседании, а также при простом общении в результате чего один гуманоид (пацак или чатланин) должен прочесть мысли другого, сказавшего этот короткий призыв к беcсловесному общению на одном из плюканских языков.

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Re: TSA/FAA Waiver или e-APIS ?

#2 Сообщение vova_k » 19 сен 2010, 04:25

По крайней мере для канадских бортов нужен просто eAPIS. Насколько я знаю, для других иностранных - тоже (если сертификат летной годности нормальный, а не какой нибудь экспериментальный)

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#3 Сообщение 502 » 19 сен 2010, 04:41

vova_k писал(а): Насколько я знаю, для других иностранных - тоже (если сертификат летной годности нормальный, а не какой нибудь экспериментальный)
По какому поводу тогда тут радости: http://www.nbaa.org/news/pr/2010/20100726-041.php ? Из этого пресс-релиза следует, что e-APIS можно только для "company-owned airplanes". И это случилось только с июля этого года.
Ку — произносится при ритуальном приседании, а также при простом общении в результате чего один гуманоид (пацак или чатланин) должен прочесть мысли другого, сказавшего этот короткий призыв к беcсловесному общению на одном из плюканских языков.

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#4 Сообщение vova_k » 19 сен 2010, 05:41

Я думаю, что ты понял приблизительно наоборот. Ключевые слова - "...company-owned airplanes to travel to the U.S. to conduct business". В моем понимании, очевидно, идет речь о том, что для рейсов иностранных чартерных компаний в Штаты не нужно будет теперь получать вэйвер, а можно просто будет заполнить eAPIS. Могу, конечно, ошибаться, поэтому задал вопрос знающему человеку, завтра должен ответить...

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#5 Сообщение 502 » 19 сен 2010, 09:19

vova_k писал(а):Я думаю, что ты понял приблизительно наоборот. Ключевые слова - "...company-owned airplanes to travel to the U.S. to conduct business". В моем понимании, очевидно, идет речь о том, что для рейсов иностранных чартерных компаний в Штаты не нужно будет теперь получать вэйвер, а можно просто будет заполнить eAPIS.
Именно так я и понял. А всем остальным - не company-owned, нужно будет продолжать получать вэйвер.
Ку — произносится при ритуальном приседании, а также при простом общении в результате чего один гуманоид (пацак или чатланин) должен прочесть мысли другого, сказавшего этот короткий призыв к беcсловесному общению на одном из плюканских языков.

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Re: TSA/FAA Waiver или e-APIS ?

#6 Сообщение lt.ak » 19 сен 2010, 09:57

ну так, в частности, "ноги растут" из FDC NOTAM 0/6432 ... обратите внимание на пункты K и L в Part I ... особенно на разницу параграфов K.4 и L.4 ...
FDC NOTAM 0/6432 писал(а):FDC 0/6432 FDC SPECIAL NOTICE
Aircraft with a maximum certificated takeoff gross weight of 100,309 pounds (45,500 kgs) or less that operate to or from or within or transit territorial airspace of the united states (u.S.).

Effective 1009010001 UTC until further notice.

This notice, and another separate special notice for aircraft with a maximum certificated takeoff gross weight of more than 100,309 pounds(45,500 kgs), replaces previously issued FDC Special Notice NOTAMs 9/2786 and 9/2788.

In addition to the requirements prescribed in 14 CFR Part 99, security control of air traffic, the following special security requirements are in effect pursuant to 14 CFR Section 99.7 special security instructions.

Part I. Authorized operations aircraft with a maximum certificated takeoff gross weight of 100,309 pounds (45,500 kgs) or less, are not authorized to operate to or from or within or transit territorial airspace of the U.S. unless they meet the conditions of one of the following paragraphs. In addition, aircraft with a maximum certificated takeoff gross weight of 100,309 pounds (45,500 kgs) or less, are not authorized to enter united states (U.S.) territorial airspace enroute to planned alternates unless the operator meets the requirements listed in this notice prior to listing U.S. airports as alternate landing airports in the aircraft flight plan.

A. All foreign diplomatic flights with a state department approved diplomatic clearance are authorized except diplomatic flights from State Department designated special interest countries must also have an FAA routing authorization. Note: Washington National-Ronald Reagan airport (DCA) is not authorized for arrival or departure of foreign diplomatic flights.

B. Aircraft registered in United States, Mexico, Canada, Bahamas, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, and British Virgin Islands are authorized to operate within the territorial airspace of the U.S. in accordance with all applicable regulations. Aircraft registered in these countries are also authorized to operate VFR in airport traffic pattern areas of United States airports near the United States border. However, if the aircraft departs the airport VFR pattern at any time and transits Canadian, Mexican, or international airspace enroute to another airport, the requirements of paragraphs F. through J. apply.

C. U.S. military, air ambulance, fire fighting, law enforcement, rescue recovery, and emergency evacuation aircraft engaged in operations within 50 nm of the border are authorized only with an atc-assigned discrete beacon code. This requirement is applicable if conducting operations that exit and reenter or cross in and out of territorial airspace of the United States.

D. Canadian and Mexican air ambulance, fire fighting, law enforcement, rescue recovery, and emergency evacuation aircraft engaged in operations within 50 nm of the border, with or without an active flight plan, are authorized with an ATC-assigned discrete beacon code.

E. Foreign registered aircraft are authorized to operate within U.S. territorial airspace when conducting post maintenance, manufacturer production, and acceptance flight test operations if in compliance with conditions 1 through 6:
1. File and are on an active flight plan;
2. Are equipped with an operational mode C or S transponder and continuously squawk an ATC issued transponder code;
3. Maintain two-way communications with ATC;
4. Operational control is by a U.S. company;
5. A U.S. licensed pilot is pilot in command;
6. Maintenance flight is included in the remarks section of the flight plan.

F. Aircraft registered in the United States are authorized to operate to or from the territorial airspace of the U.S., if in compliance with conditions 1 through 4:
1. File and are on an active flight plan (DVFR included).
2. Are equipped with an operational mode C or S transponder and continuously squawk an ATC issued transponder code.
3. Maintain two-way communications with ATC. 4. Comply with all U.S. customs and border protection requirements including advance passenger information system (APIS) requirements in 19 CFR part 122.

G. Aircraft registered in the United States are authorized to transit the territorial airspace of the U.S., if in compliance with conditions 1 through 3:
1. File and are on an active flight plan (DVFR included).
2. Are equipped with an operational mode C or S transponder and continuously squawk an ATC issued transponder code.
3. Maintain two-way communications with ATC.

H. Aircraft registered in Mexico, Canada, Bahamas, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, and British Virgin Islands are authorized to transit the territorial airspace of the U.S., if in compliance with conditions 1 through 3:
1. File and are on an active direct flight plan (DVFR included) that enters U.S. territorial airspace directly from any of the countries listed in this paragraph. Flights that include any stop in a non-listed country must comply with all requirements for other foreign registered aircraft in accordance with paragraph L of this notice.
2. Are equipped with an operational mode C or S transponder and continuously squawk an ATC issued transponder code;
3. Maintain two-way communications with ATC.

I. Aircraft registered in the United States, Mexico, or Canada and operating without an operational mode C or S transponder and/or without the ability to maintain two-way communications with atc are authorized to operate to or from the U.S. territorial airspace in Alaska, if in compliance with conditions 1 through 4:
1. Enter and exit Alaskan airspace between Canada and Alaska north of the fifty-fourth parallel;
2. File and are on an active flight plan;
3. Squawk 1200 if VFR and equipped with a transponder;
4. Comply with all U.S. customs and border protection requirements including APIS requirements in 19 CFR part 122.

J. Aircraft registered in the United States, Mexico, or Canada and operating without an operational mode C or S transponder and/or without the ability to maintain two-way communications with ATC are authorized to transit the U.S. territorial airspace in Alaska, if in compliance with conditions 1 through 3:
1. Enter and exit Alaskan airspace between Canada and Alaska north of the fifty-fourth parallel;
2. File and are on an active flight plan;
3. Squawk 1200 if VFR and equipped with a transponder;

K. Foreign registered aircraft operating to or from the territorial airspace of the U.S. not specifically authorized in paragraphs A-J of this part, are authorized if in compliance with conditions 1 through 5:
1. File and are on an active flight plan (DVFR included);
2. Are equipped with an operational mode C or S transponder and continuously squawk an ATC issued transponder code;
3. Maintain two-way communications with ATC;
4. Comply with all U.S. customs and border protection requirements including APIS requirements in 19 CFR part 122;
5. Are also in receipt of an FAA routing authorization if the aircraft is registered in a State Department designated special interest country or is operating with the ICAO three letter designator of a company in a country listed as a State Department designated special interest country;

L. Foreign registered aircraft transiting or operating within the territorial airspace of the U.S. not specifically authorized in paragraphs A-K of this part, are authorized if in compliance with conditions 1 through 5:
1. File and are on an active flight plan (DVFR included);
2. Are equipped with an operational mode C or S transponder and continuously squawk an ATC issued transponder code;
3. Maintain two-way communications with ATC;
4. Foreign registered aircraft are operating under an approved TSA aviation security program or are operating with an FAA/TSA airspace waiver;
5. Are also in receipt of an FAA routing authorization if the aircraft is registered in a State Department designated special interest country or is operating with the ICAO three letter designator of a company in a country listed as a State Department designated special interest country.

Part II. FAA/TSA airspace waivers, TSA aviation security programs, FAA routing authorizations, APIS, and state diplomatic clearances

A. FAA/TSA airspace waivers
1. Operators may submit requests for faa/tsa airspace waivers at https://waiver.c3.faa.gov. (case sensitive-use lower case only) by selecting international as the waiver type.
2. Information can be found at: http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/tsnm/gene ... ivers.shtm (case sensitive-use lower case only) or can be obtained by contacting TSA at 571-227-2071.
3. For emergency or short notice requests, contact TSA at 571-227-2071 or after hours at 703-563-3400.
4. All existing FAA/TSA waivers under FDC NOTAM 9/2788 remain valid for the specified end date in waiver. However, operations to and from the United States must also comply with all U.S. Customs requirements including advance passenger information system (APIS) requirements in 19 CFR part 122

B. TSA aviation security programs
1. Information regarding TSA aviation security programs for general aviation operations is availiable at: http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/tsnm/gene ... rules.shtm (case sensitive-use lower case only).
2. Contacts for information regarding TSA aviation security programs will be provided by the Department of Transportation during the commercial certification process. U.S. commercial aircraft operators contact their principal security inspector (PSI). Foreign air carriers contact their international industry representative (IIR).

C. FAA routing authorization information applicable to State Department designated special interest flight operations in U.S. territorial airspace is available by contacting the FAA at 202-267-8115.

D. U.S. customs and border protection advance passenger information system (APIS) requirements are available at http://www.cbp.gov

E. State Department diplomatic clearance information applicable to all foreign diplomatic flights operating in U.S. territorial airspace is available at: http://www.useg.org/useg.html (case sensitive-use lower case only) or contact the State Department at 202-736-7158 or after hours at 202-647-9000.

Part III. Special notice
A. Pilots are reminded that there are increased security measures in place at many areas. In accordance with 14 CFR section 91.103, prior to departure, pilots must obtain pertinent flight information, including any temporary flight restrictions along their route of flight or at their point of departure/arrival.

B. Noncompliance with the security requirements in this special notice may result in the flight being denied entry into the territorial airspace of the U.S. or ground stopped at a U.S. airport designated by the FAA and/or TSA.

C. Any person who knowingly or willfully violates the rules concerning operations in this special notice may be subject to certain criminal penalties under 49 USC 46307. Pilots who do not adhere to the following procedures may be intercepted, detained and interviewed by law enforcement/usss/security personnel.

D. Separate special notice notam issued for definitions.
Последний раз редактировалось lt.ak 20 сен 2010, 04:00, всего редактировалось 1 раз.
AIM 4-1-9 (g)(1) ... "Traffic in the area, please advise" is not a recognized Self-Announce Position and/or Intention phrase and should not be used under any condition.

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#7 Сообщение 502 » 19 сен 2010, 10:46

lt.ak писал(а):ну так, в частности, "ноги растут" из FDC NOTAM 0/6432 ... обратите внимание на пункты K и L в Part I ... особенно на разницу параграфов K.4 и L.4 ...
Андрюш, а открытым текстом можно? Я ниче не понял.
Ку — произносится при ритуальном приседании, а также при простом общении в результате чего один гуманоид (пацак или чатланин) должен прочесть мысли другого, сказавшего этот короткий призыв к беcсловесному общению на одном из плюканских языков.

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#8 Сообщение lt.ak » 19 сен 2010, 10:50

502 писал(а):
lt.ak писал(а):ну так, в частности, "ноги растут" из FDC NOTAM 0/6432 ... обратите внимание на пункты K и L в Part I ... особенно на разницу параграфов K.4 и L.4 ...
Андрюш, а открытым текстом можно? Я ниче не понял.
грубо говоря есть два варианта для Foreign registered aircraft - один требует APIS, другой Waiver ...
AIM 4-1-9 (g)(1) ... "Traffic in the area, please advise" is not a recognized Self-Announce Position and/or Intention phrase and should not be used under any condition.

Failure to comply with this warning will result in future warnings.

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#9 Сообщение 502 » 19 сен 2010, 11:19

lt.ak писал(а):
502 писал(а):
lt.ak писал(а):ну так, в частности, "ноги растут" из FDC NOTAM 0/6432 ... обратите внимание на пункты K и L в Part I ... особенно на разницу параграфов K.4 и L.4 ...
Андрюш, а открытым текстом можно? Я ниче не понял.
грубо говоря есть два варианта для Foreign registered aircraft - один требует APIS, другой Waiver ...
Гуд. Спасибо.
Ку — произносится при ритуальном приседании, а также при простом общении в результате чего один гуманоид (пацак или чатланин) должен прочесть мысли другого, сказавшего этот короткий призыв к беcсловесному общению на одном из плюканских языков.

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#10 Сообщение vova_k » 19 сен 2010, 16:29

Ни фига себе - если честно, я не знал раньше, что Штаты рассматривают канадские/багамские/мексиканские самолеты по другому, чем остальные иностранные... Внимательнее нужно читать руководящие документы, а также НОТАМы, которые каждый раз выпрыгивают при получении flight briefing...

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#11 Сообщение lt.ak » 20 сен 2010, 03:58

502 писал(а):Гуд. Спасибо.
мне наверно стоило выразиться более точно - "K" говорит об "Foreign registered aircraft operating to or from the territorial airspace of the U.S." и для этого нужно "Comply with all U.S. customs and border protection requirements including APIS requirements in 19 CFR part 122" ... а "L" говорит об "Foreign registered aircraft transiting or operating within the territorial airspace of the U.S." и для этого требуется "are operating under an approved TSA aviation security program or are operating with an FAA/TSA airspace waiver" ...
AIM 4-1-9 (g)(1) ... "Traffic in the area, please advise" is not a recognized Self-Announce Position and/or Intention phrase and should not be used under any condition.

Failure to comply with this warning will result in future warnings.

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#12 Сообщение lt.ak » 20 сен 2010, 11:11

кстати вот NOTAM с определениями ...
FDC NOTAM 0/6499 писал(а):FDC 0/6499 FDC SPECIAL NOTICE

This notice is the definitions for FDC SPECIAL NOTICE NOTAMs 0/6432 and 0/6433 separate special notices for international aircraft that operate to or from or within or transit territorial airspace of the United States (U.S.).

Effective 1009010001 UTC until further notice.

In addition to the requirements prescribed in 14 CFR part 99, Security Control of Air Traffic, the following special security requirements are in effect pursuant to 14 CFR section 99.7 Special Security Instructions.

Definitions

A. Territorial airspace of the U.S. means the airspace over the U.S., its territories and possessions, and the airspace overlying the territorial waters between the U.S. coast and twelve (12) nautical miles from the U.S. coast.

B. To or from means any flight entering U.S. territorial airspace after departure from a location outside of the U.S. for landing at a destination in the U.S., or exiting U.S. territorial airspace after departure from a location in the U.S., or any flight that exits U.S. territorial airspace and returns into U.S. territorial airspace to land at a destination in the U.S.

C. Transit means any flight departing from a location outside of the U.S., its territories or possessions, which operates in the territorial airspace of the U.S. enroute to a location outside the U.S., its territories or possessions.

D. Within means any flight departing from a location inside of the U.S., its territories or possessions, which operates in the territorial airspace of the U.S. enroute to a location inside the U.S., its territories or possessions.
Note 1: aircraft conducting test operations that depart and return to US airports, without any intermediate stops, are considered aircraft operating within US territorial airspace.
Note 2: aircraft operations that depart U.S. airports and transit Canadian, Mexican, or international airspace enroute to another U.S. airport, without any intermediate stops outside of the United States, are considered aircraft operating within US territorial airspace.

E. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)/Transportation Security Administration (TSA) airspace waiver means a grant of relief by the FAA/TSA from the requirements of specific regulations to the degree and for the time period specified in the waiver.

F. State Department designated special interest countries are Cuba, Iran, North Korea, the Peoples Republic of China, Russia, Sudan, and Syria.

G. Commercial aircraft. A commercial aircraft is any aircraft transporting passengers and/or cargo for some payment or other consideration, including money or services rendered.
AIM 4-1-9 (g)(1) ... "Traffic in the area, please advise" is not a recognized Self-Announce Position and/or Intention phrase and should not be used under any condition.

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#13 Сообщение 502 » 20 сен 2010, 11:23

lt.ak писал(а):кстати вот NOTAM с определениями ...
FDC NOTAM 0/6499 писал(а):FDC 0/6499 FDC SPECIAL NOTICE
F. State Department designated special interest countries are Cuba, Iran, North Korea, the Peoples Republic of China, Russia, Sudan, and Syria.
Fuckers.
C. FAA routing authorization information applicable to State Department designated special interest flight operations in U.S. territorial airspace is available by contacting the FAA at 202-267-8115.
Ку — произносится при ритуальном приседании, а также при простом общении в результате чего один гуманоид (пацак или чатланин) должен прочесть мысли другого, сказавшего этот короткий призыв к беcсловесному общению на одном из плюканских языков.

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#14 Сообщение lt.ak » 20 сен 2010, 11:27

ну поэтому и выделил ... :wink:

в принципе для "мелких", насколько я понимаю, это формальность ... более точно наверное можно спросить по адресу 9-ATOR-HQ-IFOS@faa.gov ...
AIM 4-1-9 (g)(1) ... "Traffic in the area, please advise" is not a recognized Self-Announce Position and/or Intention phrase and should not be used under any condition.

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#15 Сообщение Misha » 20 сен 2010, 12:22

lt.ak писал(а):ну так, в частности, "ноги растут" из FDC NOTAM 0/6432 ... обратите внимание на пункты K и L в Part I ... особенно на разницу параграфов K.4 и L.4 ...
FDC NOTAM 0/6432 писал(а):FDC 0/6432 FDC SPECIAL NOTICE
E. Foreign registered aircraft are authorized to operate within U.S. territorial airspace when conducting post maintenance, manufacturer production, and acceptance flight test operations if in compliance with conditions 1 through 6:
Андрюш, тогда разжуй мне пункт Е, пожалуйста.
В критической ситуации ты никогда не воспаришь на уровень своих ожиданий - ты неизбежно провалишься на уровень своей натренированности (с)

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